diff --git a/src/freedombone-app-mailpile b/src/freedombone-app-mailpile
index 66dc7258..230ded8d 100755
--- a/src/freedombone-app-mailpile
+++ b/src/freedombone-app-mailpile
@@ -446,9 +446,13 @@ function install_mailpile {
     pip install jinja2==2.9.6
     pip install pgpdump==1.5
 
+    # turn off ssl in dovecot
+    sed -i 's|#ssl =.*|ssl = no|g' /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
+    sed -i 's|ssl =.*|ssl = no|g' /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
+
+    # set ssl certs, just in case we want to use them later
     sed -i "s|#ssl_cert =.*|ssl_cert = </etc/ssl/certs/${DEFAULT_DOMAIN_NAME}.crt|g" /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
     sed -i "s|ssl_cert =.*|ssl_cert = </etc/ssl/certs/${DEFAULT_DOMAIN_NAME}.crt|g" /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
-
     sed -i "s|#ssl_key =.*|ssl_key = </etc/ssl/private/${DEFAULT_DOMAIN_NAME}.key|g" /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
     sed -i "s|ssl_key =.*|ssl_key = </etc/ssl/private/${DEFAULT_DOMAIN_NAME}.key|g" /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
 
diff --git a/src/freedombone-base-email b/src/freedombone-base-email
index 5cd12d23..6ab7a99a 100755
--- a/src/freedombone-base-email
+++ b/src/freedombone-base-email
@@ -1345,8 +1345,8 @@ function configure_imap {
         echo $'Unable to find /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf'
         exit 83629
     fi
-    sed -i 's|#ssl =.*|ssl = required|g' /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
-    sed -i 's|ssl =.*|ssl = required|g' /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
+    sed -i 's|#ssl =.*|ssl = no|g' /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
+    sed -i 's|ssl =.*|ssl = no|g' /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
     sed -i "s|#ssl_cert =.*|ssl_cert = </etc/ssl/certs/dovecot.crt|g" /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
     sed -i "s|ssl_cert =.*|ssl_cert = </etc/ssl/certs/dovecot.crt|g" /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf
     sed -i "s|#ssl_key =.*|ssl_key = </etc/ssl/private/dovecot.key|g" /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf